Thursday, December 31, 2009

ALL FOR NOUGHT


In a matter of hours, the decade known variously as the Noughts, Noughties and Zeroes will be over. We're ten years past 2000AD, and thankfully, we've not yet reached the point of living in domed-off cities or under fascist rule, and neither Robo Hunters, Strontium Dogs or Rogue Troopers roam the wasteland. Now I've got some of my childhood geekiness out of the way, I'll get to my point. Or perhaps... that very geekiness IS my point. (Oooh!)

Trying to define the 2000s in film (or in TV or music or any other art) is tricky, and many themes have seemed to define this decade. But which one sums it up for this particular observer? Democratised/DIY filmmaking? Sure, it's become de rigeur, but it was up and going by 2000, with EL MARIACHI, CLERKS and THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT having a huge effect on filmmakers in the 1990s. Meta-filmmaking, of the Charlie Kaufman school of self-referential through genre-referential through storytelling-mechanics-shifting gymnastics? Perhaps, but Wes Craven was laying foundation for that with NEW NIGHTMARE and SCREAM in the 1990s, as well as Quentin Tarantino's films (which also kickstarted another big 2000s craze: nonlinear narratives). No, if one major thing has filtered its way through both Hollywood and world cinema to, if not define it, at the very least leave its mark on it... it's the Fanboy.

And, no, I'm not being sexist. There are millions of fangirls around the world, and, especially at the tail end of this decade, are becoming a major audience force of their own. But, to a certain extent, their gateway to "fandom" was through material nominally aimed toward teenage boys. Starting from Hollywood and working its way out, major big budget films are being built with a teenage boy mentality at the wheel. The reason it's really taken flight this decade, it seems, is because Generation X, who've become active enough to begin to shape this decade, and Generation Y, who've came of age in the '00s, are the people most -- to borrow a strained pop-psychology phrase -- "in touch with their inner child" than any generation in memory. X & Y are the television/video/DVD/CD/game console/home computer generation; entertainment has always been at our fingertips and many of us have experienced major moments of awakening, realization and discovery before the glow of a screen. Rather than remembering riding our bikes around or summer beach holidays as children, our most powerful memories are of Transformers, Voltron, Kimba, Astroboy, The Goodies, Doctor Who, Batman, Ghostbusters, Marty McFly, E.T., Gremlins... and so on. And, in the 2000s, all that nostalgia just exploded, and the shrapnel became irrevocably ingrained in every facet of popular culture this decade.

From albums of morning-cartoon theme tune covers, to superhero sitcoms, to big screen comic book adaptations, to theme park rides and board games being "adapted" into movies, to t-shirts and fashions incorporating pop culture characters and phrases, to a growing wide awareness of genre and cinematic convention, the "Fanboy" mindset has dominated mainstream cinema like no other. Although, again, Quentin Tarantino and his quotable ilk gave notice of this trend in the mid-90s, it has lit up like a bushfire these last ten years. 1998's BLADE was the first Marvel Films production, but 2000's X-MEN was their first blockbuster, which caught the studios' collective eye in a big bad way. Nine years on, no studio's slate lacks a comic book property.

1999, the last genuinely great year of cinema, was the baton-passing point. While brilliant films jockeyed for attention, we had STAR WARS EPISODE I: THE PHANTOM MENACE, which may actually be the most influential film of this decade. From mining the relatively dormant vein of fanboy nostalgia to its computer generated characters, it makes a perfect bookend with one of the last releases of the 2000s, AVATAR. Alongside that is 1999's perception-altering DIY blockbuster BLAIR WITCH, which got people first thinking about selling their handicam opus to Hollywood, which makes an intriguing bookend with another 2009 phenomenon, PARANORMAL ACTIVITY, which has inspired Paramount to open a "microbudget" division, focused on finding said handicam talent.

It's no accident that your mum and dad, who once derided your comic books as juvenile diversions you'll grow out of, are now most likely familiar with the most basic tropes of superheroic lore.

And this is all without even mentioning the elephant in the room: the Internet, the single biggest contributing factor to this cultural shift.

Like it or not, the Fanboy is king, and may be here to stay for some time. But let's leave the future for now, and draw our focus to the recent past, as I present...

MY TOP 25 FAVOURITE FILMS OF THE 2000s

Originally, I was going to go with a Top 10, and do all sorts of charts but, frankly, I'm not ready to spend all that time looking back and dissecting; I'll leave that to others with more time, eloquence and perspective. (If you get some time, check out the top 2000s films of my favourite internet pundits, Jeremy "Mr Beaks" Smith and Drew McWeeny, who are far more analytical and entertaining minds than mine.)

ALSO: I have rather impassioned thoughts on how high-end television (predominately HBO and the BBC) has surpassed film as the dominant, most mature storytelling form of the decade, but everything I want to say on that subject is expressed much better here, by New York Magazine's Emily Nussbaum.

These 25 films represent the films that had the biggest effect on me this decade, in one way or another, the ones I found most entertaining, emotional, thrilling, exasperating, brilliant. The ones which blew me away above all, the ones I have no issue revisiting (some are easier to revisit than others, but it's like family: no matter if it takes years, you know you'll always drop in eventually). The ones that, for me, encapsulate this weird, wild, occasionally wonderful decade. And here they are...


25. BAD SANTA (2003)
For growing into my favourite Christmas movie ever made, for being more corrosively hilarious every time I see it, for being utterly dark but having genuine heart, for the sight of Lauren Graham panting "Fuck me Santa, Fuck me Santa, Fuck me Santa", for perfectly harnessing Billy Bob Thornton's insouciant, world-weary visage and southern drawl for its ultimate purpose: delivering sledgehammer insults to children and midge-- uh, I think they like to be called little people...

24. THE PIANIST (2002)
For showing us new, ever more horrifying angles of the Holocaust we'd never seen (from a filmmaker who actually survived it), for having the balls to make a 150 minute movie virtually silent for huge chunks of time, for Adrien Brody to not only live up to this challenge but soar above it, for a cinematic master to make an elegantly frightening return to form with a story that couldn't help but be intensely personal, for giving us the most revealing account of the Holocaust since (and possibly surpassing) SCHINDLER'S LIST.

23. DEAD MAN'S SHOES (2004)
For giving us the decade's best and most poignant revenge film, for giving Paddy Considine the chance to show how incredibly brilliant he is, for galvanising the burgeoning brilliance of director/co-writer Shane Meadows (which he would build upon with his next film, THIS IS ENGLAND), for creating a tense, emotional and shattering experience like few other on a small budget, for painting its despicable villains as real people, for breaking my heart in two every time I see it.

22. GOOD NIGHT, AND GOOD LUCK. (2005)
For powerfully defining and perfectly exposing this decade's media-driven culture of fearmongering with elegant precision, for signalling George Clooney's arrival as a filmmaker, for giving the great David Strathairn a perfect lead role, for its outstanding cast of character actors and stars in supporting roles, for its gorgeous black and white images (from the marvellous Robert Elswit) and lush jazz score, for being a class act all the way.

21. BATMAN BEGINS (2005)
For giving me the Bat I've always wanted but never seen on screen, for giving the Dark Knight -- at last -- a film which focused upon him and not his rogues' gallery, for allowing Christian Bale's angry, suave, damaged hero to own the show, for Christopher Nolan's scoring a home run on a major franchise while strongly maintaining his directorial identity, for that playing card at the end, for "You'll never have to."

20. BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN (2005)
For transcending the dismissive "gay cowboy movie" slurs, for Ang Lee's sensitivity and grace in delivering one of the most beautiful, lyrical, tragic and effective love stories ever made, for ending with one of the greatest visual metaphors in film history, for making me cry like a newborn.

19. JUNO (2007)
For taking a story and setting I had no right to be interested in and making it essential, for Jason Reitman's scarily confident storytelling, for its perfect cast, for Diablo Cody's screenplay which, beneath all the archly droll dialogue, lies a giant heart, for showing how teenage pregnancy might be handled if surrounded by loving, level-headed, non-judgmental individuals (ie. in a perfect world), and for being pro-CHOICE, despite what dunderheaded Republicans tell you.

18. JARHEAD (2005)
For finding a fresh angle on the "war is hell" axiom -- not through violence or losing lives, but by being dehumanised and shaped for violence, then relegated to useless bodyguards for interests they barely understand, and have nothing to do but self-destruct -- for showing Sam Mendes can turn his hand to any genre and make it great, for providing stunning imagery, arresting set pieces (some taking place emotionally, others viscerally) and the best war film of the decade.

17. SHAUN OF THE DEAD (2004)
For introducing the furiously talented creators of the definitive Gen-X sitcom, SPACED, to the big screen, for marrying genres effortlessly and making the fondest, most affecting horror-comedy hybrid (NOT a spoof) since AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON, for not cheapening on the horror or the comedy and for being one of this decade's most quotable and constantly watchable films.

16. HIGH FIDELITY (2000)
For surviving the transatlantic change to bring my all-time favourite novel to life perfectly, for providing an excellent follow-up to GROSSE POINTE BLANK and showing us what charisma, intelligence and insight John Cusack is truly capable of as a star/writer/producer (before throwing the rest of the decade away on middling rubbish), for -- again, being eminently quotable and summing up a great portion of my generation.

15. BRICK (2005)
For creating something which paradoxically used well-worn noir conventions but felt truly original, for Rian Johnson's genius in creating (much more than any sci-fi film did this decade) a three-dimensional world for his hard-bitten teens to move around in (of all the crappy sequels we were dished up this decade, it's the one film I would've loved to have seen continue -- with Johnson on board, of course), for giving Joseph Gordon-Levitt a quirkily brilliant heroic lead, and for making a truly remarkable example of a genre that was done to death this decade (only the Coens' THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE is in its class... okay, that and...)

14. KISS KISS, BANG BANG (2005)
For finally giving legendary Hollywood screenwriter Shane Black the opportunity to display his elegantly, hilariously testicular view of the world unfiltered and unfettered by hack directors or big budgets, for reintroducing Robert Downey Jr 2.0 as a unparalleled leading man (leading to his current much-deserved world domination), for showing us that Val Kilmer (given the right material) could still be great, for providing the perfect summation, satire and loving homage to the noir genre I love so much. And did I mention that dialogue...?

13. PUNCH-DRUNK LOVE (2002)
For taking the genius of Paul Thomas Anderson to new levels, for creating the decade's most dysfunctional yet painfully true and darkly sweet love story, for harnessing the rageaholic manchild persona of Adam Sandler and using it to elicit a genuinely sad, bruised, inspiring performance, for using Emily Watson's innate sweetness and making her powerful, for the discordantly brilliant Jon Brion score, for crafting a true original.

12. A SERIOUS MAN (2009)
For combining everything we've loved about the Coen Brothers' work this decade -- enigmatic scripting, sublime visuals, metaphysical musings, hilarious dialogue, casts of idiosyncratic actors, cheeky endings that throw down the gauntlet to audiences -- into one film and displaying their growing ambition, for asking the big questions -- Why is this happening to me? Why do bad things happen to good people? Why are we here anyway? -- and providing no answers whatsoever except confirming what we all know and fear: there are no answers, at least none we'll ever comprehend, for introducing us to a fantastic new actor in Michael Stuhlbarg, for being entertaining at every turn, for speaking to me on some strange intuitive level.

11. SPIDER-MAN 2 (2004)
For being the very best comic book adaptation in a decade rife with them, for being utterly faithful to all the characters but fearlessly messing with the details in a way that reveals and enhances those characters, for really drilling to the metaphorical heart of who Spider-Man/Peter Parker is and represents, for showing Sam Raimi was no one-trick blockbuster pony, for making a villain I always loathed into a tragic, towering figure, for delivering as all sequels promise but all-too-rarely do, for infusing real character development, startling FX and big-scale action and bringing them to an emotional crescendo... and, of course, for "Go get 'em, Tiger".

10. [REC] (2007)
For giving us the scariest horror picture of the decade, which works in any arena, on any screen, provided you give it your undivided attention, for displaying painstaking craft and attention to detail rarely sighted in horror pictures nowadays, for not manufacturing artificial conflict between characters or making them arseholes for the sake of same, for taking the popular "verite" horror gimmick to technical heights equalled only by CLOVERFIELD (and for about a tenth of the budget), for being utterly believable, for being utterly nerve wracking, for being nothing less than the great white shark of fright machines.

9. BEFORE SUNSET (2004)
For bringing us back to the lives of two thoroughly real characters who we loved, for not feeling like a "sequel" cash-in but rather a visit with old friends, for providing a very thirty-something perspective on filtered dreams, pragmatism and battered-yet-unbowed optimism, perfectly counterbalancing BEFORE SUNRISE's equally affecting, very twenty-something romantic vision of fleeting but forever influential love, for Ethan Hawke and Julie Delpy's perfect chemistry and charm, for that wicked, wicked ending.

8. THE INCREDIBLES (2004)
For being the best Pixar film thus far and the very best cinematic take on superhero mythology yet seen, for confirming Brad Bird as a genuine animation auteur, for doing the Fantastic Four better than either of Fox's wretched attempts, for encapsulating everything that makes Pixar studios great -- bulletproof character development, smart plotting, genuine suspense, pure but not sickly sweetness, a story-first philosophy and state-of-the-art computer animation -- and showing us why they've redefined the art of animation this decade, for being sublime.

7. LOST IN TRANSLATION (2003)
For being the definitive lush, elegant, emotional mood piece of the decade, for exploring a friendship as opposed to a romantic love affair, for allowing Sofia Coppola to work through her marriage breakdown and follow up on the promise of the gorgeous VIRGIN SUICIDES, for giving Bill Murray the best role of his career and watching him nail it with small gestures and quiet pain that'll slay you, for giving Scarlett Johanssen something real to do, for showing as loving a look at Tokyo as an American filmmaker has ever given, for just being completely wonderful, and wonderfully sad.

6. OLDBOY (2003)
For introducing me to the inventive, invigorating glory that is South Korean cinema and the singularly brilliant mad genius of writer/director Park Chan-Wook, for taking us places we could never possibly -- and wouldn't want to -- imagine, for making us pay attention to detail, for its jaw-dropping set pieces, for its swirling widescreen camera and baroque score, for beguiling at every turn, for making us look at the cinematic trope of vengeance in a new way, for being that rarity in today's recyclable culture: an original.

5. THE LORD OF THE RINGS (2001/02/03)
For delivering an all-time classic film to befit the legendary reputation of the revered source material, for Peter Jackson and co's absolute love, passion and fidelity for doing it justice, for the unprecedented gamble taken by New Line Cinema to let Jackson do his thing, for Jackson's ambition and supreme filmmaking skill to craft the defining fantasy epic of our age, for the seven years of painstaking effort expended by the immense crew in making everything work perfectly, for Gollum to show us what the future of mo-cap and computer generated characters really held, for creating a genuine classic which thoroughly deserved everyone of its 17 Oscars (and should've won more).

4. THERE WILL BE BLOOD (2007)
For Paul Thomas Anderson's intelligence, guts, vision, unparalleled skill and, yes, genius in bringing us a genuine American classic, for completely defining the ideologically corrupt abyss that the world's richest nation currently finds itself in, for letting Daniel Day-Lewis cut loose while channelling John Huston, for H.W., for nailing a father-son dynamic then shattering it (and me), for Robert Elswit's poetic lensing of harsh landscapes bereft of sympathy, for Jonny Greenwood's fearsome, ever-building score, for providing the perfect comment on our times through the behaviour of two men, without hammering a damn thing home, and for the greatest final line of the decade.

3. KILL BILL (2003/04)
For sharing the pure, thrilling, unbridled joy of exploitation and eastern cinema through the gale-force enthusiasm of Quentin Tarantino, for the exuberant filmmaking and glorious scene-building on display at all times, for a clutch of iconic characters, for giving Uma Thurman the role of a lifetime, for making Michael Madsen badass again, for taking us on a journey through every exploitation genre you can imagine in some part or another, for splitting the two parts up into eastern and western, exhilaration and regret, for the greatest end credit scrawl of the decade, for an exploitation cinephile's dream.

2. ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND (2004)
For being -- in my humble opinion -- nothing less than the greatest cinematic love story ever made, for showing us why relationships die but more powerfully reveal why we must keep them alive, not through hackneyed revelations and forced awakenings but simply by bringing the characters face to face with why they loved each other in the first place -- their own memories, for being the clearest, most accessible vessel for the colossal unwieldy genius of Charlie Kaufman, for making Jim Carrey the most lovingly melancholy romantic lead of the decade, for actually being an honest-to-goodness science-fiction story, for being sweet, bizarre, perception-altering and transcendent all at once.

1. ADAPTATION. (2002)
For showing just how enormously difficult the creative process is, for ostensibly being about writing but actually being about everything, for showing that, as long as you're faithful to the spirit and intention of your source material, you can stretch it in any direction you want to make a great film that honours it, for Spike Jonze's superbly realistic-yet-strangely-surreal direction (how does he do that?), for providing us Nicolas Cage's stunning, career-defining portrayal of two distinct men, performances he'll never ever top, for the narrative gymnastics, for Meryl Streep in every way, for Chris Cooper's broken-down bravado, for Brian Cox's brilliantly bombastic Robert McKee, for "The Three", for the endless quotability, for "Happy Together", and for "That was her business, not mine. You are what you love, not what loves you. That's what I decided a long time ago..." It's the love within you, your capacity for loving, that counts.

And, you know what? I couldn't think of a better, more appropriate line to see out this tumultuous decade.

Happy New Year, all.

And Happy Tens!

Fin.

15 comments:

shannon said...

Comments begin now.

There's quite a few films here that I just don't get. Bad Santa, Brokeback, Kiss Kiss. These are the standouts for the last ten years? Seriously? Man. I do NOT get that.

Very happy to see Batman Begins above TDK (origin stories are infinitely harder).

Very happy to see GNAGL in there; a film wrongly not appearing on too many other Decade lists.

You mentioned this decade as being the Time of the Fanboy. Perhaps it's also the Time of Kaufman. He's had a significant influence on filmmaking over the past ten years, and with only three films.

No Wes Anderson is a surprise.
Only one Pixar is a surprise.
Only one director double-up is a surprise.

But the king of the list - Before Sunset? Number six? Wow. This is such a generic film. So... blah. So unaffecting. I couldn't care less about either of those characters. Frankly, I would've preferred to have seen IB in your top ten instead. At least I could quantify its presence. A staggering inclusion.

To sum up - I just don't get it.
But I did enjoy reading it.

And I would like to see a "Most Important/Influential of the Decade" list soon too.
Then we can actually argue properly, instead of me telling you your opinion is wrong (as fun as that is).

The Slightly Illuminated Knight said...

Welcome back Shannon!

Was wondering where you'd gotten to.

So you go from not getting some films' presences, to not getting the list?? Or am I reading that wrong. (You could've just been reiterating that you didn't get BEFORE SUNSET's inclusion.)

Yeah, I'm baffled not to see GNAGL in more lists, too. It was justly raved about when it arrrived & hasn't aged a day. It should be almost mandatory.

Kaufman is the 2nd most influential factor on film these days, no question. Just think the Fanboy culture shift has been more all-pervasive.

There's no Wes Anderson because I feel -- and this is just my opinion -- that he's generally an overly ironic, massively self-conscious one-trick pony, and this opinion only solidifies with each of his films.

Seriously, I don't know how you can call QT a one-trick pony and love this guy. Every Wes Anderson film feels identical to the last. In fact, the way you feel about Tarantino is the way I feel about Wes: though I've never seen BOTTLE ROCKET, I loved RUSHMORE and TENENBAUMS, but it soon became clear that's all he's got. With every subsequent film, Wes' charm diminishes by half. Every film rolls out the same fractured family plot, has the French New Wavy Wannabe feel, has the same characters with the same muted expressions with the same ironic hipster delivery. I'm tossing up over whether to give him one last chance in FANTASTIC MR FOX, because it's animation and because of the voices. But I fear I'll just be served up the same old meal again.

Only one Pixar is there because it's head and shoulders over the rest. The rest of them are excellent entertainments, and one or two of them are (GASP!) overrated, but THE INCREDIBLES is the one that resonated for me.

And that's what this list is about: they're the ones that resonated for me. The ones that stayed lodged in my mind and heart.

I can't think of another 2000s comedy I love to revisit more than BAD SANTA (THE 40 YEAR OLD VIRGIN would be the next one). Besides ETERNAL SUNSHINE and PUNCH-DRUNK, BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN is the next great love story of the decade for me. KISS KISS BANG BANG is 100% off-the-chain Shane Black: something I've been dying to see since THE LAST BOY SCOUT.

I saw AWAY WE GO again last week to see if I was being hyperbolic. I'm not, and they're SO not smug. The only family they give it to is Maggie G & Josh Hamilton, and they judged first and TOTALLY had it coming. Allison Janney and her husband were borderline insane, but I didn't see Burt & Verona actively taking the piss out of them. But I know I'm not gonna sway you on this one, so I'll drop it.

I will concede, I felt a little funny putting BEFORE SUNSET at #6, but hurried to publish by the NYE deadline. I've put it down to #9, which I'm much more comfortable with. It was pretty much always a lock for my top 10, I was, and remain, completely in love with it. (To be fair, doesn't sound like you were any great fan of BEFORE SUNRISE, either.)

As you don't follow Twitter, you've missed the news that I'm retiring PULP FRICTION indefinitely (at least until my MIFF '10 wrap-up) to concentrate more energy into screenwriting and filmmaking this year. BUT, just for you, I did have a go at the important/influential list and, for your viewing pleasure, will publish it here, with quick explanations... next!

The Slightly Illuminated Knight said...

The Top 10 Most Important/Influential Films of the 2000s:

Special mention: THE 25TH HOUR / UNITED 93 / 11'09''01 (first films to deal with 9/11)

10. AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH (gave climate change credibility, countries have worked it into political agendas since with greater ease)

9. SAW (for better or worse, kickstarted grimy torture porn horror in a big way, most studio horrors since are a riff on this)

8. SHAUN OF THE DEAD (the reason we now have a proliferation of zombies, which now sees zombie films more popular than ever before)

7. THE BOURNE IDENTITY (like 48 HRS in the 80s and BAD BOYS in the 90s, it was the film that dictated how the rest of the decade's action films would look and feel: it even took over James Bond)

6. TRAFFIC (kickstarted a new "genre" of multi-stranding explorations of issues, from CRASH to SYRIANA to CROSSING OVER and so on)

5. X-MEN (2000) (gave birth to the comic book superhero renaissance, showed studios it was a viable moneyspinner)

4. THE LORD OF THE RINGS / HARRY POTTER series (gave studios the confidence to plunder their literary departments for any multipart novel saga that may appeal to the kids, the reason we got TWILIGHT, NARNIA, TOMORROW WHEN THE WAR BEGAN, et al)

3. BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE / FAHRENHEIT 9/11 (BOWLING influenced the way documentaries were made for the rest of the decade, FAHRENHEIT preached to the converted for a while, then, once the Bush Administration's crimes became clear, became more of a social document -- don't hear too much denouncing of the docu these days -- and both proved drew audiences like documentaries had never seen before)

2. PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL (in short: the reason studios are greenlighting films based upon non-story properties like board games, theme park rides, toys, etc.)

1. THE POLAR EXPRESS (you betcha. The first all-mo-cap film, the first major feature film to be released in IMAX and 3D -- it was the middle step in evolution between '99's PHANTOM MENACE and '09's AVATAR. Weird that it came out in '04, too: directly between them.)

Flame away, as I'm sure you will.

TSIK

shannon said...

Yes, been away for Xmas.
Very happy to be back, just as you are (no doubt) very happy to question my vague ramblings.

First, to clarify, I "just don't get" a few of your inclusions, not the entire list itself.
Or you, for that matter.
That phrase just seemed to be the right thing to say at the end.
But bear in mind that the right thing to say FOR ME is often the wrong thing to say for everyone else.
But you already knew that...

I definitely see your Wes Anderson point; it's quite a regular argument against him by his critics.
I don't see his work that way though.
I see him make films that belong to a very particular world, common throughout all his films.
They're incredibly specific, repetitive to a degree, but they're worlds I enjoy visiting.
The characters, however oddly they speak or behave, are still endearing.
I don't have much of a problem with the fact they (more or less) always concern disfunctional families.
It might be the same tune time after time, but it's wrapped up quite differently each time.
His use of locations, for example, be it NY, Rome, India is incredibly successful; it's palpable - something you can't say about a lot of filmmakers.

I think you could argue a similar point with Woody Allen; he (more or less) keeps making the same film
over and over again, in the same location, in the same style, with the same stock characters with the same problems, populating the same world.
Granted, he hasn't been doing it so much of that lately...
But I see your point. Wes is not for everyone. I really respond to him, his humour especially.

You should see Fantastic Mr Fox, if only for the fact that it's less than 90 minutes.
But it's very fun.
But it's very Wes.

And I don't call QT a one-trick pony; I call him an arrogant fuckwit.

Yeah, everyone seems to going for Nemo over any other Pixar film in the last ten years.
Incredibles not getting as much of a look-in.

I think there's one comedy you've missed that you'll enjoy revisiting, another film strangely absent from every decade list I've seen. It doesn't escape mine though (stay tuned).

And very sad to hear that the blog will be retired.
But very happy to hear that more TSIK filmmaking will be the result.
But I shall return to very sad again should these films take as fucking long to finish as WMTSGO.
Pick up the pace sweetheart!

Now to compose another comment to answer your other comment...

shannon said...

Okay, I've calmed down now.

VERY nice list.
I pride myself on my Most Important lists, and you've got a few here I've missed, dammit.

Inconvenient Truth - yeah, nah, sorta, maybe, not really. Certainly influential in an informational, getting-the-word-out sense. Not so influential in terms of cinema though.

Saw - missed this one. Damn. Yes, totally agree.

Shaun - nah. 28 Days Later had zombies pegged (ha!) a few years earlier. Shaun certainly brought comedy-horror back to the fore though. Haven't had a good laugh/scare since American Werewolf in London (or Braindead, for those who actually saw it). So maybe influential in that regard; there's been quite a few splatter comedies in the mainstream since. But not top ten.

Bourne - yep, definitely.

Traffic - nah. There wasn't really a massive flood of multi-narrative films after this. A few, maybe, but not enough to warrant a top ten place methinks.

LOTR/Potter - yep, agree.

X-Men - missed this one too. Damn damn. Singularly responsible for the resurgence of comic book films. That's a gimme. Damn.

Columbine/Fahrenheit - yes, agree.

Pirates - no way. Firstly, everyone is drawing a very long bow to suggest that Pirates the movie has anything to do with Pirates the Disney ride.
The only thing they have in common is a lack of narrative.
Maybe the title too.
But more importantly, studios have been trying to milk silly non-narrative sources for ages for potential properties (although I can't think of one except for Clue). They just got lucky with Pirates.

Polar Express - also no way. Motion capture is nothing too significant. It'd certainly get a decent footnote in the Story of Visual Effects, but if you're gonna include this, you'd also have to include Final Fantasy. And no-one wants to see that.

On the whole though, very persuasive list.
Taschen would be proud.

Lee said...

It goes against my new year's resolution, but I'm going to have to agree with Shannon. At least, about Wes Anderson. Definitely not a one-trick pony. I totally get it if you don't like his style, but keeping his specific, constructed manner and his consistent theme of daddy issues, but he'd only be a one trick pony if the films were getting steadily worse or stopped working at all. Fantastic Mr Fox and Darjeeling Limited are near-flawless works to many, meeself included.

To your All For Nought list (wish I'd thought of that, btw), I can't really fault any of the entries. My own noughties list wouldn't look anything like that, but I do like all of the films you've listed.

I think Dark Knight is technically a better film, but I like Batman Begins more. I think. Maybe it's the other way around, and I like Dark Knight more even though BB is a better film. I'm not sure. Definitely something paradoxical like that.

Good Night and Good Luck was, on first viewing, a perfect film. It somehow gets better with every re-watch.

Coming back in a moment with thoughts on the Most Important.

Lee said...

Thoughts on the Most Influential:

Agree on all of Paulie's. I'm too tired to think of any he might have missed, but I think we spoke about these a few months ago, and I think the list is pretty much the same.

Pirates of the Caribbean was hugely influential, but not really because someone realised a ride could be a movie (films have been based on flimsier premises than this before), but because of Johnny Depp. Depp insisted, against Disney's wishes, on playing Sparrow like a drunken Keith Richards (tautology?), but his performance was so charming and roguish and so on that he is undoubtedly the reason the film bad a billion billion dollars. It's because of Depp that we've got Robert Downey Jnr in the franchise-starting Sherlock Holmes, Downey Jnr (again) in Iron Man, and Depp (again) in The Lone Ranger. There would surely be more than this if it wasn't for the fact that RDJ and Depp are the only two charismatic, left field actors working (James Spader has put on too much weight to be an action star, and John Cusack -- love him though I do -- just doesn't have the range). But this new breed of charming hero + semi-bland sidekick in fast-paced action-adventure is all down to POTC and Depp.

Shannon makes a good point about Final Fantasy, but wasn't Polar Express the first proper mo-cap? Even so, we need to figure out if the most influential film is the one that technically crosses the finish line first, or the one that actually makes history?

X-Men was only three years after Batman and Robin, and B&R was the fourth film in the series that began in 1989. And Superman IV was only two years before that, and continued ("concluded" until Bryan Singer came along) a series that began in 1978. So the current crop of superhero movies actually began over twenty years ago.

I'm not just being a smart arse with dates. Yes, X-Men showed that superhero films could be smart and still bust blocks, but we wouldn't have had that serious take on it if it hadn't been for Burton's initial, groundbreaking take. (I'm not the world's biggest Burton fan, or the world's biggest Batman '89 fan, but even I can't deny its important place in history.) And we would never have got Burton's Batman if it hadn't been for Donner throwing the camp just-for-kids idea of comic book heroes out the window and making a film that blew everyone the fuck away. History has been rewritten so that Donner's Supes is seen as more of the same when, in fact, it was unlike anything that had come before.

However, X-Men is both stylistically and financially the father of the current crop (Batman is the grandfather, Superman is the great-grandad, and Hasselhof's Nick Fury is the creepy molestory uncle).

So my point wasn't to discredit X-Men, but to point out that if X-Men is, indeed, the influential film we all claim it to be, then I think we actually need to swap out Polar Express for Avatar. If you're talking about mo-capped characters in live action films, the influential Gollum wins over the not-quite-there-yet Jar-Jar Binks and Dobby the House Elf.

So yeah, I'd put Avatar in there instead. I know there's a lot of live action, but there are also large chunks of the film in which there is nothing but mo-capped humans and CGI environments, and those standalone sequence will do more to change filmmaking (especially if you factor in box office takings) than Polar Express.

And I had more to debate about Inconvenient Truth, but I just exhausted myself with all that, so I'll stop there.

The Slightly Illuminated Knight said...

Lee: I won't argue on taste, but will on significance:

Mo-cap is only part of my POLAR EXPRESS inclusion. POLAR was a first for three things, all of which AVATAR has repeated: full feature in 1) Mo-cap, 2) IMAX and 3) 3D. Without POLAR EXPRESS, there may not have been an AVATAR. Sure, Cameron had his own vision and would've gotten around to it eventually, but the way I see it, in the new decade, virtually every blockbuster will be prepared for IMAX and 3D, and POLAR was the first feature to do both (and was also more successful than you'd think, it grossed over US$350m worldwide). It's not just the mo-cap. If it had bombed, being a feature film in IMAX/3D/all mo-cap, Cameron's plans may not have been backed as generously.

(And Gollum is another reason that LOTR belongs in the list. And I do mention in my wrap-up that potentially the most influential film of the 2000s was a 1999 film: (ugh) PHANTOM MENACE.)

SUPERMAN and BATMAN were milestones, absolutely, and the great-grandfather/grandfather, absolutely. But they both led to dead ends. Post-SUPERMAN, other than its own sequels, how many comic books were adapted for the big screen? POPEYE and ANNIE and that was about it. If anything, it had more impact on TV (HULK, SPIDER-MAN, WONDER WOMAN, etc). BATMAN led to a mini-renaissance in superhero movies -- which, yes, all looked and felt similar to Burton's opus (CROW, SHADOW, DICK TRACY, etc) but none were hits on any sizeable level. X-MEN not only led to a proliferation, because it was the right time for the right generation, but unleashed Marvel upon the big screen for once and for all, and finally gave Marvel the confidence to know it's characters would actually work on the big screen. And, in look and feel, was vastly different from SUPERMAN, and reasonably different from BATMAN as well. So I stand by its inclusion.

Shannon: Agree INCONVENIENT wasn't impactful on cinema or documentary filmmaking, I put it there purely on social significance (as I did with FAHRENHEIT 9/11). And FINAL FANTASY was more about being all-CGI photo-real animated, than all-mocap. True that POTC plot-wise (such as it is) bears no relation to the ride, the brand-recognition of the title was absolutely the trojan horse that got it out there. Depp did the rest.

To both of you: CLUE is still the only movie I can think of based upon a board game. (We had DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS based on an RPG, but those have stories.) And certainly no theme-park rides (well, not if you don't count 70s disaster movie ROLLERCOASTER). I do agree with Lee that it also ushered in the era of quirky leading men fronting blockbusters, and this is another reason POTC belongs in this list. But believe me: things like MONOPOLY, BATTLESHIP and RISK would never have had a prayer of being greenlit if not for PIRATES' bounty. If X-MEN was about kickstarting the renaissance of Marvel and the permanent resurgence of comic book movies, POTC was about ensuring the words "brand recognition" became all-powerful in Hollywood.

Later gators!

shannon said...

Paulie, re: your faves of the decade - BAD EGGS?
Tony will be heart-broken.

Now then...

MOST IMPORTANT FILMS OF THE 2000s (no order)

Bowling For Columbine
- for single-handedly bringing documentary to the cinema.

LOTR
- for being a helluva thing.

Oldboy
- for the Korean connection.

Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind
- for being a helluva thing.

Spirited Away
- for showing animation is more than Shrek and Pixar.

Borat
- for the next level of comedy.

Russian Ark
- for the ultimate use of digital.

The Bourne Identity
- for redefining the action genre.

Dogville
- to piss off Lee.

Saw
- for a new type of horror.

X-Men
- for bringing back comic book movies.

If there had to be a number one, I'd probably give it to Columbine.

Lee said...

I don't think there'd be an X-Men without a Burton's Batman, and I don't think there'd be a Burton's Batman without a Donner's Superman... but I do agree that X-Men is responsible for the current crop. I was mostly arguing X-Men's lineage to proffer Avatar as more influential than Polar Express.

You're probably right with the Polar Express argument (its box office taking is, in fact, a big factor here, as you say), but I think we'll know in a few years which really lit the genre up. I think the studios were prepared to invest in x amount of movies to see if 3D Imax mo-cap was going to do it for audiences; I suspect the next crop are going to be greenlit based purely on Avatar's takings. I'd wager Avatar would have been made regardless of whether Polar Express was, simply because Cameron is every bit the innovator Zemeckis is, and would have done all of this independently. In terms of cultural impact, Avatar beats the stuffing out of Polar Express.

I accept your board game argument, and POTC gets in that list for both that and the roguish drunkard character thingy.

Don't agree with Borat. The only thing it's really influenced is Bruno. I don't think we'll be seeing a new crop of "reality" mockumentary comedies. SBC birthed and killed the genre in two films.

Dogville was important in that it showed that you can release pretty much any old rubbish and some critics will eat it up. In that sense, we finally agree that LvT is a visionary! Still, I really look forward to his next film about a girl who is destroyed by the town she lives in. After Breaking The Waves, Dancer in the Dark, Dogville and Manderlay, I really don't feel I've seen enough of that.

Like I said a few weeks ago, I'm only now feeling like we've got enough perspective to talk about the most influential films of the '90s, let alone the '00s. So I shall simply sit back and throw stones at other people's lists. Much more fun!

shannon said...

MOST IMPORTANT OF THE 1990s

Go!

(much more confident in my responses to this category)

Lee said...

Dammit, you called my bluff.

Okay, I'll start thinking. You do the same. We'll all meet back here.

The Slightly Illuminated Knight said...

So Shannon... GO is your only pick for most important films of the '90s? Bold choice...

:p

Lee said...

Okay, I'm just going to throw a few random ones out there rather than try to get to ten, 'cos we'll be here until, well, 2020.

PULP FICTION/CLERKS

I'd credit Pulp, Reservoir Dogs, Clerks, El Mariachi (to an extent), and Desperado for creating "independent cinema" as it was in the 90s and 00s. It didn't just change how movies were made: everyone was trying to be Tarantino and Kevin Smith. And everyone generally failed.

TOY STORY

Self-evident, surely.

SCREAM

The self-referential, MTV-teen genre was short-lived (Urban Legend, anyone?), but it was a big movement in the 90s, and Scream kicked it off. And the current crop of slasher genres (Saw, Final Destination, the constant Platinum Dunes remakes) are a direct result of this film.

INDEPENDENCE DAY

Redefined "event" movies, for better or worse.


More as I think of them.

shannon said...

Pulp Fiction is definitely THE most important/influential film of the 90s, no question.

Clerks, Scream & Toy Story definitely in the list too.

ID4 - hmmm, maybe.

My list rolls like this (no order):

Pulp Fiction
The Matrix
Chungking Express
Clerks
Blair Witch Project
Toy Story
T2 (or Jurassic Park)
There's Something About Mary
Basic Instinct
Scream

Probably argue GoodFellas or Se7en also.